A Message from God

If God has access to all of our minds, and he wants everyone to receive the same message about him, why doesn’t he just deliver it to us directly?  Wouldn’t that be more effective than relying on fallible human messengers to deliver it, especially when there always seem to be plenty of competing messengers around who are delivering contradictory messages about God which appear to be equally well meaning and sincere?

Why would it be so important to God that we get our information about Him and His will for us from someone other than Him, especially if you believe, as in Mormonism, that God will speak to us through the Holy Ghost to confirm the truth of all things?  If God has the time and means to tell us if a message from Him through a messenger is true or not (as well as to monitor everything we think and do), why doesn’t He just give us the message from Him directly in the first place?

Imagine that God has an email address and that you regularly email Him and He emails back.  

Then from time to time you get emails from various prophets, ministers, and missionaries with a message they claim is from God, for you and for the world.  You email God to ask Him if any of the messages you’ve received from these various messengers are really true and from Him, and eventually you get an email back letting you know that yes, indeed, one of the messages is the truest and best and is the one you should listen to.  So you do.  

But at some point you realize that millions of other people have been emailing God for years asking the same question but getting a different answer in reply. 

 If your understanding was that it’s extremely important to God that all of his children receive the same message about him, at some point wouldn’t you wonder why He doesn’t just email His message to everyone directly, especially since He is already emailing with everyone directly about so many other things?

Does The Lord really want everyone to get the same message about Him, or does he want everyone to try and figure out which is the true message and who are the true messengers and then ask Him what he thinks so He can answer everyone differently ?

If you have to go to the original source of a message to find out if the message is originally from that source, why not simply get the message from the original source in the first place, especially if you are already connected to that source in such a way that it knows everything about you?

And if God is all-powerful, has one consistent message for the world, and already has full access to our minds, why would He need messengers at all?

Three Truths for Mormons 091622

1. There is no body inside your body.

Despite what we read in The Book of Mormon about the Brother of Jared’s experience with Jesus, there is no credible evidence beyond personal belief that you are a human-shaped, full-sized, spirit body inside of a human-shaped, full-sized temporal body, like a ghost dressed in a flesh and bone suit. It may feel that way sometimes, but it also feels like the Earth is standing still in space and we know that it’s not.

I think we can know beyond a reasonable doubt that there are no spirit bodies inside of our bodies because surgeons throughout modern medical history have cut open live human bodies in all kinds of ways with no consideration at all for the spirit body supposedly living in there, tinkered around inside, and then stiched them back up and brought them to a full recovery. No evidence of spirit body damage, no evidence of spirit body spillage or leakage, and really no room at all in there for a full-sized spirit body to be living. Is there a spirit body shaped hollow inside each of us? No. What’s inside a human body other than the insides of a human body? There is no space inside your body for another full-sized version of you. Where would it go? The human body is too full of its own insides to accomodate a second version of itself like some kind of Russian nesting doll.

And by the way, what happens to the spirit body limbs of amputees? If I had to get my arm amputated, would my spirit arm get amputated too and I’d get it back in the resurrection as well? Or would I need to somehow fold it like a chicken wing, nice and snug next to my temporal torso? If I had to get both arms amputed, maybe I’d be like a spirit body in a temporal body straitjacket.

A faithful believer might reason that the spirit body must somehow be fused with the temporal body in such a way as to be undetectable until death, but to that I would say, maybe so, but isn’t it undetectable after death as well? Although people have claimed to see spirit bodies of the departed, these bodies never seem to make it from the inner space of subjective reality to the outer space of objective reality long enough for any disinterested outsiders to confirm that they are really there. How long should something go undetected in our shared objective reality before we admit that it doesn’t exist in our shared objective reality?

And how can a spiritual form that is so weak or so hidden as to be undetectable by modern science, have sufficient size, shape, and power to control a temporal form as large and as solid (and detectable) as the human body? I don’t think that Joseph Smith knew about things like particle accelerators (such as The Large Hadron Collider) when he wrote Doctrine and Covenants 131:7-8.

Faithful believers might reason that although there may be no scientific proof that they have spirit bodies, they believe they have them nonetheless because they can feel it, they know what they feel, and so they are confident that someday they will be vindicated in their belief. Well, I don’t feel it (anymore), and I know what I feel, so I too am confident that someday I will be vindicated in my belief. I’m also confident that if you slowly sawed off my left leg without anesthesia, that before I passed out I would only feel the saw going through one left leg and not two, because there is no body inside my body. Any spirit body that is strong enough to move my temporal body around, should feel the saw in addition to its temporal body feeling it. And if I can’t feel each of them individually because the spirit body and the temporal body are one, then there is no difference between them, and if there is no difference between them then aren’t they the same thing?

2. You can’t control your feelings.

It may feel like you can sometimes, but, SURPRISE! The feeling of being in control of your feelings is just another feeling. And aren’t feelings the effects of what has already happened? And if the feeling of being in control of your feelings is just another feeling, then in order to control your feelings it seems that you would need to control the effects of what has alread happened with the effect of what has already happened, a sort of double impossiblity. In order to feel your feelings, including the feeling of being the feeler of those feelings, that which produces those feelings must first occur. And besides, knowing what we all know about human nature, don’t you think if people could control their feelings that they would spend a lot more time feeling good and a lot less time feeling bad? Aren’t feelings actually like the weather in many ways? Many may feel in control when they obtain and use an umbrella and keep smiling through the rain, but no one controls when the rain stops.

3. You can’t change yourself.

This one doesn’t feel right at first to many people, especially those who are more achievement oriented. But what do I mean by “yourself?” I mean that feeling that you have (and I believe it’s a subjective reality that is an objective illusion) of being the subject of your own experiences, located inside of “your” body. And if that self is what you feel yourself to be, then that is the you that can’t change yourself, because “you” in that sense of the word is an illusion, and by an illusion I mean just a feeling, and feelings only exist to their subjects subjectively, and do not exist out in objective reality. And although an illusion may be able to cause change to some degree, an illusion cannot change itself. I found the following statement in my notes from about a year ago, so I am quoting myself here:

“I am not the scientist in the experiment of my life,  rather “I” am the continually updating result of the ongoing experiment, a result which changes and which can be changed, but which cannot change itself.

Three Truths for Mormons

Based on how I’m feeling at the moment, I would like to share with Mormons (and with members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, President Nelson…) three truths that I’ve learned since I began studying church history, doctrine, and culture, as well as science, philosophy, and religion:

  1. There is no good evidence that anyone or anything exists yet that places specific thoughts or feelings in your mind or body other than you. Everyone should educate themselves on the latest and best science on the human brain, because we all have one and we are all nothing without it, so shouldn’t we understand it and take care of it well? As far as we know at this time, your thoughts and feelings are yours and yours alone, and they are a function of your body (especially your brain), which is a function of your DNA and your environment. This means that Satan has no way to tempt you and God has no way to inspire you, other than by acting on their own in objective reality. The correct answer to the age-old Mormon question “How do I know if it’s my own thoughts or The Holy Ghost?” is that it’s all you and it’s always all you. Personally I think this means that either God and Satan do not exist or that they do not exist in the form traditionally taught by The Church.
  2. There is no good reason for the gold plates to be withheld from the world. I think the two most popular explanations I’ve come across for why the rest of the world beyond the eleven witnesses cannot see Joseph Smith’s gold plates are these: that God wanted to protect The Book of Mormon from the kind of translation errors and worldly interference that are found in The Bible, and that God wants to test our faith. Neither of these explanations works in any kind of objectively true way. Even if the plates had ended up safe in a museum (which God could surely bring about, couldn’t he?), Joseph Smith still would have had first crack at a full translation, and if his translation was correct it would ultimately win out in the kind of world and culture we’ve lived in since 1830, thereby supporting and confirming his true prophetic calling from God. Also, if the plates were confirmed as an authentic historical artifact and were available for anyone to inspect in a museum, faith and conversion would increase, but faith would still be required to believe and know that the supernatural and miraculous events described on the plates were objectively real and actually occured. Knowing that the text of The Bible is authentically ancient has never removed the burden of faith from the believer as far as I know, and neither would it with The Book of Mormon. In other words, knowing with scientific proof that the ancient inhabitants of MesoAmerica actually recorded on gold plates that they had supernatural and miraculous experiences is different from whether they actually had those experiences that they claimed to have – faith is required either way, so God has no good reason that I know of to withold the plates from the world. However well-intentioned, withholding evidence like this is a classic technique of the magician and con artist. If Jesus is “the way, the truth, and the life,” then shouldn’t we agree and remember that the truth does not withhold evidence of itself? Never trust that you have all of the truth from someone who won’t let you look at all of the evidence.
  3. Although he is all-knowing, God never says or does anything in the scriptures to indicate that he has any special knowledge or insight into why his children do what they do. The only reason he ever seems to give for their misbehavior is that they’ve misbehaved, they’ve sinned, they’ve chosen wrong because they’ve rejected the good and embraced the evil. Modern science and human experience tells us that in reality there can be a great variety of reasons that people do what they do, reasons over which they have little or no control, and that identifying and trying to work with those reasons seems to help bring about a rate of positive change that surely is as good and likely much better than simply commanding people to repent.

The Savior Jesus Christ Speaks (Through Layers of Others)

I just read an article on the church website that you can find here. In it, Primary General President Camille N. Johnson tells a story in which an anonymous temple worker who she does not know whispers something to her in the temple that only her dead father would have said. She takes it as a message from the Savior Jesus Christ, and/or “The Spirit” (which is, presumably, the Holy Ghost), but also from her dead dad, I think, through this temple worker.

While I am glad that Sister Johnson had what must have been a very comforting and spiritual experience, I can’t help but wonder about the logisitics of the whole thing. The way the story is written, it makes me feel like she and we are supposed to take it all to be an objectively true event, but to me it is most likely only subjectively true and a creation of her own mind, which in my opinion can still be special, helpful, and meaningful.

In order for this story to be true in objective reality, I guess her dad must have told Jesus something and then Jesus told The Holy Ghost and then the Holy Ghost told the temple worker, who then told Sister Johnson. Or maybe her dad told Jesus something and then Jesus skipped the Holy Ghost and told the temple worker directly, who then told Sister Johnson. Or maybe her dad told the Holy Ghost something and then the Holy Ghost skipped Jesus and told the temple worker directly, who then told Sister Johnson, but Jesus got the credit for it. Or maybe Jesus or the Holy Ghost came up with something on their own that only Sister Johnson’s dad would have known, and then one or both of them told the temple worker, who told Sister Johnson. The chain of custody on this spiritual message is a little confusing to me, but regardless of who told who what, one thing is for sure – her dead father had a message for her, so why didn’t he just tell her himself? Or, why didn’t Jesus or the Holy Ghost tell her directly instead of telling the temple worker to tell her?

There are lots of stories throughout Mormon history of people from the spirit world appearing to people in the temple – why not just have her dad appear to her in the temple and give her the message in person?

After all, I know someone who believes that her dead father appeared to her and told her the sex and hair color of her unborn child, so why would he get a hall pass to go do that but Sister Johnson’s father wouldn’t? If Sister Johnson’s dad had the time and ability to give Jesus or the Holy Ghost or both of them a message so one of them could tell the temple worker who then told Sister Johnson, then why didn’t he have the time and ability to just pop in to the temple and say hi to his daughter directly?